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Closeness is a pull, not a push: why listening beats talking

Closeness is not something you push into a room by talking, explaining, or sharing more of yourself. It is something you draw out of the other person by listening to them and asking about them. The instinct to lead with your own story or your own knowledge feels like generosity, but it fills the space the other person needed to be known in. In a 2017 study in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, speed daters who asked more follow-up questions were more likely to be asked on a second date. The people who felt closest to them were the people who had been asked about themselves. Being relational is mostly receptive work — a pull, not a push — and that is good news, because pulling is easier to learn than pushing is to stop.

You come home with something to say. It went badly at work, or well, and you tell it properly — the set-up, the turn, the part where you were right. Your partner listens for a while, then looks at their phone. You feel the distance and reach for the only tool you have, which is more: more detail, more feeling, more of yourself on the table. Twenty minutes later you are further apart than when you walked in, and you have no idea how, because you were trying so hard.

I see this in couples and I see it in men sitting alone in my chair in Victoria. The effort is real and the method is backwards: they are pushing, and closeness is a pull.

What pushing looks like

Pushing is anything that moves outward from you into the space between you: talking, explaining, sharing your story, offering your knowledge, giving advice, making your case. None of it is wrong. All of it feels like connection from the inside, because you are being open, and openness is supposed to be the thing. But notice who the subject of every one of those sentences is: you.

The brain rewards this. In a 2012 study from Harvard published in PNAS, Diana Tamir and Jason Mitchell found that talking about yourself lights up the brain's dopamine reward system, and that participants would give up small cash payments for the chance to answer questions about themselves rather than about other people. The same paper estimates that 30 to 40 per cent of everyday speech is spent telling other people about our own experience. That is not a character flaw but a wired-in pleasure, which is exactly why it runs the conversation if you let it.

The trouble is that your partner has the same wiring. Two people each pulling the reward lever for themselves are two people taking turns being unheard.

What pulling looks like

Pulling moves the other way. You make room, and the other person comes into it. The tools are unglamorous: a question, a follow-up question, silence that lasts a beat longer than is comfortable, a reflection back of what they said rather than what it reminded you of. The subject of the sentence is them.

The Harvard speed-dating study is the cleanest test of this I know. Karen Huang and her colleagues had people go on a series of short first dates and then coded every question asked. Daters who asked more follow-up questions — not opening questions, not scripted ones, but questions that built on what the other person had just said — were more likely to be asked out again, across 110 daters and nearly 2,000 four-minute dates. The daters themselves had no idea. The same paper found that people consistently fail to predict that asking questions will make them better liked. The people across the table simply wanted a second date with whoever had done it.

Closeness is not what you feel when someone is impressive. It is what you feel when someone is interested.

Push (feels like connecting)Pull (actually connects)
Telling your storyAsking for theirs, then asking a second question
Explaining your point until they get itSaying back what you heard until they feel got
Offering what you knowFinding out what they think
Giving adviceAsking what they want from you: help, or company
Filling the silenceLetting it sit for one more beat
Matching their story with a bigger one of yoursStaying with theirs

Why the small moments decide it

John Gottman calls the small openings a partner offers bids — a comment about the weather, a sigh, a "look at this." Every bid is a chance to pull. In his six-year follow-up of newlyweds, couples who stayed married had turned toward those bids 86 per cent of the time, and couples who divorced had managed 33 per cent. The bids in a distant marriage do not usually go unanswered because someone is cruel. They go unanswered because the other person was mid-push: still finishing the story, still making the point, still explaining.

Guy Itzchakov and Harry Reis, who study listening for a living, have shown across a run of studies that high-quality listening is what produces the felt sense that a partner is responsive — that they understand you, value you, and will be there. Responsiveness is the closest thing relationship science has to a definition of intimacy. And you cannot produce it in someone else by telling them things. It arrives only through them being heard.

The relational move, in Terry Real's terms

In Relational Life Therapy, Terry Real is blunt about the pushing habit: it is a form of unbridled self-expression, and it lives one step away from control. You are trying to install something in the other person — your view, your feeling, your way of seeing it — and calling it honesty. The relational alternative is to hold yourself with warmth and to hold them with curiosity at the same time. Real calls the stance "same as," neither above nor below. From same-as, you do not need to win the exchange or fill it. You can afford to receive.

This lands hardest with the high-functioning men I work with, because talking well is often how they got where they are. They are good at explaining. They have knowledge to offer. And the moment their partner says "you never listen," they do what they are good at — they explain that they do. It is the perfect illustration of the problem. Nobody has ever been argued into feeling heard.

What to do tonight

Pick one conversation and change the ratio, not the content. When your partner says something, ask one question about it before you say anything about yourself, and then ask a second. When you notice the pull to match their story with yours, hold it for a minute; you can offer it later, and it will land better once they feel you took theirs in. When you want to give advice, ask first whether they want a solution or a witness, and believe the answer. When they go quiet, wait one more beat than is comfortable, because the thing they were deciding whether to say usually comes out in that beat.

Do this for a week and something odd will happen. You will have talked less and your partner will tell you they feel closer to you. You will not have fixed anything or explained anything. You just stopped pushing on a door that opens toward you.

Common questions

Why do I feel less close to my partner the more I share?

Because sharing moves outward from you and takes up the space your partner needed to be known in. Closeness is produced by the other person feeling heard, not by you feeling expressed. If you are sharing more and feeling more distant, the fix is to ask more and listen longer, not to open up further.

Is listening really more important than talking in a relationship?

For closeness, yes. A 2017 study in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology found that people who asked more follow-up questions on first dates were more likely to be asked on a second date, and John Gottman's newlywed research found couples who stayed married responded to their partner's small bids for attention 86 per cent of the time, against 33 per cent for those who divorced. Talking has its place; it just does not do the pulling.

What does it mean that closeness is a pull, not a push?

Pushing is anything that moves outward from you: telling, explaining, advising, sharing your story or your knowledge. Pulling is anything that draws the other person out: asking, following up, reflecting back, staying quiet a beat longer. Closeness is a felt experience in the other person, so only the pulling tools create it.

Why does talking about myself feel so good?

Harvard researchers Diana Tamir and Jason Mitchell showed in 2012 that self-disclosure activates the brain's dopamine reward system, and that people will forgo small amounts of money for the chance to talk about themselves. Roughly 30 to 40 per cent of everyday speech is about our own experience. It is a normal, wired-in pleasure, which is why it needs managing rather than indulging if you want the other person to feel close.

How do I ask better questions of my partner?

Ask about what they just said rather than what it reminds you of. Follow-up questions do the work: a first question opens the door, a second one shows you walked through it. Keep the questions open, keep them about them, and resist answering your own question with a story of your own.

What if my partner never asks about me?

Two things can be true: you can change your side of the ratio, and you can name what you need. Pulling is not a vow of silence. Once your partner feels heard, ask directly for what you want in return. If the imbalance is chronic and naming it does not shift it, that is a pattern worth bringing to couples counselling.

Does this apply to men in particular?

It applies to anyone, but it lands hard on high-functioning men because explaining and advising are often the skills that built their careers. Being told you do not listen and responding by explaining that you do is the pattern exactly. The relational move is to receive first and offer second.

Can couples counselling help with this?

Yes. A good deal of couples work is learning to pull rather than push, in real time, with someone in the room who can stop the exchange and show you the moment it turned. Victoria Relationship Therapy offers couples counselling in person in Victoria and online across British Columbia, with a free 15-minute consult to start.

A note: This article is general information, not therapy or a substitute for it. If you're in crisis or need urgent help, please call or text 9-8-8 (Suicide Crisis Helpline) or call 9-1-1.

Koby Smutylo is a counsellor in Victoria, BC, working with individuals and couples in person and online across British Columbia — drawing on Relational Life Therapy, Emotionally Focused Therapy, the Gottman Method, and Internal Family Systems. More about Koby →

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